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	<title>Comments on: Apparently, Ships Can Drag Anchors from Egypt to Malaysia</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KosherNinja</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-2173</link>
		<dc:creator>KosherNinja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahahahha The whole world is at the mercy of Israel. We will do whatever we feel is best for us, to hell with the rest of the world.

With the US as our loyal partner, we are untouchable. Soon the world will quake in fear of our might. No holocaust will ever happen again because we will destroy everything that stand sin our way, be it your fathers, mothers or your children. The world is ours because we are the chosen.

Shalom motherfuckers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahahha The whole world is at the mercy of Israel. We will do whatever we feel is best for us, to hell with the rest of the world.</p>
<p>With the US as our loyal partner, we are untouchable. Soon the world will quake in fear of our might. No holocaust will ever happen again because we will destroy everything that stand sin our way, be it your fathers, mothers or your children. The world is ours because we are the chosen.</p>
<p>Shalom motherfuckers!</p>
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		<title>By: withemer</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>withemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>farang  "farang can be to their ilk" Is that gangstar slang in a highclass fathom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>farang  &#8220;farang can be to their ilk&#8221; Is that gangstar slang in a highclass fathom?</p>
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		<title>By: farang</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>farang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd have to say:

 1) bloodforoil hit the nail on the head, quite the find, that link. I think you are precisely correct.

2) When folks like noteom and bite me open their mouths, it is a welcome sound.

I always like to know who to completely ignore as bone stupid, and not waste my time reading their excrement. No need to wonder about their motivation to demonstrate public inanity: They might simply be IQ deficient, without ulterior motives.

 And that's about as kind as farang can be to their ilk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say:</p>
<p> 1) bloodforoil hit the nail on the head, quite the find, that link. I think you are precisely correct.</p>
<p>2) When folks like noteom and bite me open their mouths, it is a welcome sound.</p>
<p>I always like to know who to completely ignore as bone stupid, and not waste my time reading their excrement. No need to wonder about their motivation to demonstrate public inanity: They might simply be IQ deficient, without ulterior motives.</p>
<p> And that&#8217;s about as kind as farang can be to their ilk.</p>
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		<title>By: jeb</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>jeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damnnnnnnnn you aquaman!!!!!!!!!!!!! *shakes fist*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damnnnnnnnn you aquaman!!!!!!!!!!!!! *shakes fist*</p>
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		<title>By: tankcat</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>tankcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you would like some background on these underwater supercables, read this article.  it was written in 1996 just as the FLAG cable was being laid.  warning, it is about 6 chapters in a good book, so put some time away to read it.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you would like some background on these underwater supercables, read this article.  it was written in 1996 just as the FLAG cable was being laid.  warning, it is about 6 chapters in a good book, so put some time away to read it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy L</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea - I noticed the story off of &lt;a href="http://www.drudgetracker.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;drudgetracker.com&lt;/a&gt;. It's pretty creepy... Don't take my internet away : (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea - I noticed the story off of <a href="http://www.drudgetracker.com" rel="nofollow">drudgetracker.com</a>. It&#8217;s pretty creepy&#8230; Don&#8217;t take my internet away : (</p>
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		<title>By: puttputt</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>puttputt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cables were not cut, but the US goverment installed sniffer routers at the choke point of Middle eastern internet traffic to monitor it. 

Basically, they are do it for traceability and surveillance.

It is for the sake of world domination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cables were not cut, but the US goverment installed sniffer routers at the choke point of Middle eastern internet traffic to monitor it. </p>
<p>Basically, they are do it for traceability and surveillance.</p>
<p>It is for the sake of world domination.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@those so quick to judge the "tin-foil hat crowd"

Please check out my latest post:
&lt;a href="http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/09/were-all-up-in-your-internets-cutting-all-yur-cablez/" rel="nofollow"&gt;
We’re All Up in Your Internets, Cutting All Yur Cablez&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@those so quick to judge the &#8220;tin-foil hat crowd&#8221;</p>
<p>Please check out my latest post:<br />
<a href="http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/09/were-all-up-in-your-internets-cutting-all-yur-cablez/" rel="nofollow"><br />
We’re All Up in Your Internets, Cutting All Yur Cablez</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Flowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Unreal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Unreal!</p>
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		<title>By: hk</title>
		<link>http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/apparently-ships-can-drag-anchors-from-egypt-to-malaysia/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>hk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>consider this:

during the cold war the us sent a submarine and divers to place a listening device on soviet "secure" telecommunication lines (electric current communication) that ran along the coast. they periodically retrieved recorded data for the duration of the cold war.

us admitted rf listening (ie: eschelon) has become increasingly impotent with communications taking place over the internet. that is the whole argument for bush's domestic spying in "new era communication". that is why the placed taps on major us backbone locations within at&#38;t and others as klein revealed.

the probability of multiple lines being accidentally cut should raise questions. the latest reports of egypt say their ships did not cut them as they have evidence they did not travel near the break.

tapping into today's optical fibers undetected needs them to be broken first - ie: the line needs to be taken down. time domain reflectometery can show a discontinuity if it occurs between repeaters, but an undersea tap at a repeater would later not be detected - unless one were willing to pull up and inspect all 1900 miles and verify the repeater was the original. 

the breaks occur curiously near egypt and other "states of interest" and us and israel have reason to be suspected. sure the us would like to track such things as how ubl's tapes and communications make their way to aljazeera. ip logging would go far to better locate the source - some thing local inter-middle east country communication doesn't avail the west to with their taps on domestic/international spying.

given the factual history of the us behavior and the probabilities it suggests concern is prudent.
some media coverage in the west intentionally/non-intentionally is  denouncing the whole issue. some attempt to broadly paint all the possibilities as "conspiracy theories" simply because one offering that the us is taking out iranian communications prior to an attack, has shown that the communications were unaffected. they should be more concerned with what countries are served by these lines, how odd the coincident of multiple failures is, and of showing past history and relating it to current spying by the us administration. paying particular attention to a break in egypt's line and the requirement of a "offloading" site in a nearby country to exploit the data.

[&lt;strong&gt;ADMIN EDIT&lt;/strong&gt; - truncated for length. For similar information, check out my post here: &lt;a href="http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/submarine-cables-subsidiares-and-subversion/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Submarine Cables, Subsidiaries and Subversion&lt;/a&gt;]

Internet cable breaks causing buzz on tech blogs
http://www.newsoxy.com/news/internet/article10355.htm

Conspiracy theories about Iran abound as 4th internet cable is cut
A little truth would go a long way at stopping conspiracy theories.
Scott Adams at DilbertBlog notes the conspiracy theories, and sardonically notes similarities to one of his satires:

    It seems highly coincidental that three undersea cables get cut and the only country entirely shut off is Iran. I doubt it is the first step before war, but you can’t help raising an eyebrow when reality starts to intersect with fiction.


http://www.bloggernews.net/113572</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>consider this:</p>
<p>during the cold war the us sent a submarine and divers to place a listening device on soviet &#8220;secure&#8221; telecommunication lines (electric current communication) that ran along the coast. they periodically retrieved recorded data for the duration of the cold war.</p>
<p>us admitted rf listening (ie: eschelon) has become increasingly impotent with communications taking place over the internet. that is the whole argument for bush&#8217;s domestic spying in &#8220;new era communication&#8221;. that is why the placed taps on major us backbone locations within at&amp;t and others as klein revealed.</p>
<p>the probability of multiple lines being accidentally cut should raise questions. the latest reports of egypt say their ships did not cut them as they have evidence they did not travel near the break.</p>
<p>tapping into today&#8217;s optical fibers undetected needs them to be broken first - ie: the line needs to be taken down. time domain reflectometery can show a discontinuity if it occurs between repeaters, but an undersea tap at a repeater would later not be detected - unless one were willing to pull up and inspect all 1900 miles and verify the repeater was the original. </p>
<p>the breaks occur curiously near egypt and other &#8220;states of interest&#8221; and us and israel have reason to be suspected. sure the us would like to track such things as how ubl&#8217;s tapes and communications make their way to aljazeera. ip logging would go far to better locate the source - some thing local inter-middle east country communication doesn&#8217;t avail the west to with their taps on domestic/international spying.</p>
<p>given the factual history of the us behavior and the probabilities it suggests concern is prudent.<br />
some media coverage in the west intentionally/non-intentionally is  denouncing the whole issue. some attempt to broadly paint all the possibilities as &#8220;conspiracy theories&#8221; simply because one offering that the us is taking out iranian communications prior to an attack, has shown that the communications were unaffected. they should be more concerned with what countries are served by these lines, how odd the coincident of multiple failures is, and of showing past history and relating it to current spying by the us administration. paying particular attention to a break in egypt&#8217;s line and the requirement of a &#8220;offloading&#8221; site in a nearby country to exploit the data.</p>
<p>[<strong>ADMIN EDIT</strong> - truncated for length. For similar information, check out my post here: <a href="http://www.ilovebonnie.net/2008/02/06/submarine-cables-subsidiares-and-subversion/" rel="nofollow">Submarine Cables, Subsidiaries and Subversion</a>]</p>
<p>Internet cable breaks causing buzz on tech blogs<br />
<a href="http://www.newsoxy.com/news/internet/article10355.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsoxy.com/news/internet/article10355.htm</a></p>
<p>Conspiracy theories about Iran abound as 4th internet cable is cut<br />
A little truth would go a long way at stopping conspiracy theories.<br />
Scott Adams at DilbertBlog notes the conspiracy theories, and sardonically notes similarities to one of his satires:</p>
<p>    It seems highly coincidental that three undersea cables get cut and the only country entirely shut off is Iran. I doubt it is the first step before war, but you can’t help raising an eyebrow when reality starts to intersect with fiction.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloggernews.net/113572" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloggernews.net/113572</a></p>
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